Curse

Count to Potato · Jun 15, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Elite Survivor is 1337k exp, u better be a good 55monk to get that

Oblivion Odyssey · Jul 01, 2006, 08:56 AM // 08:56

Some good points, but what you have said about not inviting a *survivor* into your group isn't fair- once they have the title there is no way for them to lose it- it's when they are going for the title that they will quit- once they have earnt the title and diead the title progress freezes.

Silent Kitty · Jul 01, 2006, 09:43 AM // 09:43

Just join groups and go afk. Eventually you'll get the tittle. And if you are a real big loser, you can leech your way to the highest survival tittle. People are used to afk players in the team and every cutscene makes that you'll catch up with them. You don't have to worry. People are so used to leeches than none will quit the quest/mission because you are there leeching. Most of them are to desperate to get the quest anyway.

Talon one · Jul 01, 2006, 01:22 PM // 13:22

i just wanted to second what weez said. you cant get 1337k exp by afk leeching off pugs. and the ppl that try to, they are the kind of player that will make you fail a mission anyway, so no great loss if they bail.
i got my title mainly by elite skill capping and doing missions/quests on kurzick and luxon territory and the southern shiverpeaks. for any _normal_ player the title means that you can play very focused for weeks without one bad pull and without once losing sight of whats happening around you.
i was glad when it was over, but it was fun to go skillcapping in the most dangerous areas and actually be afraid to die

i actually had to bail from pugs twice, but in both cases the other monk was either smite or prot (i played prot as well) and there was no one actually healing ppl

FalconDance · Jul 01, 2006, 03:18 PM // 15:18

My son is trying to get his 'sin to Survivor status. He typically goes it solo OR one of my girls goes with as back-up. He's made it to damned near level 17 before dying---and never once bailed on a fight/mission. Judicious Retreat, perhaps, when too many aggroed but went back in when the foe started to lose interest and separated back out. (And yes, he's on another rebuild thanks to hench aggro last night, no fault of the other two of us who were in the PUG)

I've seen people bail for no apparent reason. We were out to do Minister's Cho's mission (lvl 12) and accepted a real warrior into the group. We all loaded in and a couple minutes later, the tank bailed---before any fighting even started! Don't think it was an err=7, either. Probably something about a 'sin and a monk being the only members of the party. We went on to finish in 16 minutes with no danger of death whatsoever (well, duh. He's a good 'sin and I'm a good healer

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Now, the Survivior title as-is is rather a load of manure, imo. However, if a person can get it without being a chicken-shit, then it is impressive.

Silent Kitty · Jul 01, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51

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Originally Posted by FalconDance

Now, the Survivior title as-is is rather a load of manure, imo. However, if a person can get it without being a chicken-shit, then it is impressive.

In Diablo 2 hardcore players used to run a little program called "Chicken". Whenever your health became below a certain percentage you automaticly bailed out. It was also used to challenge high lvl players. You still could kill them, but they couldn't kill you. You simply made them angry by calling them names. That way you could try out your uber build against high level newbies. Bad thing in Diablo was that Hardcore players can't play anymore, once they die.
I'd like to see that here too. Not the cheating hack called chicken, but the part about having to start all over again, once you died. I always liked the hardcore bit, no matter how many cheaters tried to spoil it for me. The GW survival titles are kind of a charade.

Swinging Fists · Jul 01, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

Just join groups and go afk. Eventually you'll get the tittle.

Join groups and go AFK ? That's nearly a sure way to die. Sorry, but I don't think you gave that idea much thought.

Silent Kitty · Jul 01, 2006, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists

Join groups and go AFK ? That's nearly a sure way to die. Sorry, but I don't think you gave that idea much thought.

Seems to work, because it happens more and more. I rather play other games but some people think that leeching is a form of gameplay.
Not me. I will leave when I notice we have an afk in the party. As long as the majority doesn't mind, this kind of lame behaviour works.

Swinging Fists · Jul 01, 2006, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by Silent Kitty

Seems to work, because it happens more and more. I rather play other games but some people think that leeching is a form of gameplay.
Not me. I will leave when I notice we have an afk in the party. As long as the majority doesn't mind, this kind of lame behaviour works.

I'm sure not denying that there's a lot of AFK going on, but it's more people wanting the missions done, or faction, or whatever, where it doesn't matter if you die. Survivors have to take great care to make sure they don't die and they won't risk a mob coming over, especially after a cut scene you don't know what will be around. Not to mention, they know they will have a pissed off PUG that might just lead a mob over to them...

Silent Kitty · Jul 01, 2006, 06:28 PM // 18:28

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Originally Posted by Swinging Fists

I'm sure not denying that there's a lot of AFK going on, but it's more people wanting the missions done, or faction, or whatever, where it doesn't matter if you die. Survivors have to take great care to make sure they don't die and they won't risk a mob coming over, especially after a cut scene you don't know what will be around. Not to mention, they know they will have a pissed off PUG that might just lead a mob over to them...

My computer loads very slow. Sometimes it takes me more than a minute to load a zone. I have never died standing there in the beginning of a mission. Like I said; Pugs hardily care if you leech a mission. Actually, when you get angry about it, they will tell you not to bother. They don't know it, but by accepting this behaviour, they are in fact incouraging it. I personally expect it to happen more and more, unless someone takes a stand and rage quit. I know it's not beneficial to the outcome of the mission, but I rather see a wammo aggroing 5 or 6 monster mobs, and everybody die, than one single player just standing somewhere leeching the mission.
This "survivor" thing looks nice, but sometimes it brings up the worst in someone. Leeching is still a very safe way to play, and without the power to kick leechers, it makes the title questionable.

The Legg · Jul 01, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

hey all,

Took me 7 days to get my max survivor title on my rit. All I can say is keep trying all those of you who are going for it. It sure does suck at times when you have to log out on people but ultimately it is worth it.
One piece of advice, don do anything that has a higher than normal danger rating while the servers are laging. Reboot regularly, keep your modem cool, if you play properly and concentrate hard your worst enemy will be server lag. Even if you log out in time the lag to the server can still kill you.

For all those that will not take someone going for survivor in heir group, shame on you. If the group plays well then there should be no need for the person to have to log out. Pull well, watch aggro's and be aware of what is going on around you instead of just blaming those of us that want to achieve this excellent title

Thanks all

FalconDance · Jul 02, 2006, 05:20 PM // 17:20

UPDATE: There is now an assassin Survivor! My guildie was successful!

thor hammerbane · Jul 02, 2006, 06:07 PM // 18:07

Only experience i've had with this title was a necro warning the party that he was going for survivor title, and said he would zone at any sign of trouble...If I was the party leader, I would boot him right then and there. If you want that title for your char, go for it, but it doesn not make you better than everyone else. The reason you party up with people is to spread the danger around..if one person says he wants no part in it, then dont join parties.

Imaginos · Jul 02, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by coleslawdressin

PVP Deaths should not count, as dying in PVP is inevitable. I am about 3/4th of the way to reaching the final Legendary Survivor. My goal was to make a new character and use them in PVP later on.. Now, I am undecided if I will just get the level 3 survivor and keep it as a PVE-only char once we can buy character slots.. or abandon the survivor track and use them for PVP. This all depends if ArenaNet has any chance of changing the fact that PVP deaths count :/

Some of the people here that say they will refuse survivor characters in their team sicken me. You suck at GW. I have dealt with your type in my new Factions PVE campaign and you reek of "newb".

I have played through every single Cantha quest. 80% is with 7 hench, 10% is 6 hench + one friend, 10% is for missions where henchmen are too incompetent (read pick up spear or urn) to complete the mission, especially with a master rating.

Yes, the first tier is fairly easy to get. It is difficult to get the second one along with Protector of Cantha, mainly because of other PVE players being incompetent. I got used to just telling my team that if they wiped out I would be quitting, before the mission started. A lot of you with these bogus 70% explored titles need to stop kidding yourselves that you are any good at GW. I am beyond rank 10 in fame and experienced in top level gvg play, including participating in the GWWC playoffs.

I have joined a team whose monks refused to use anything but healing (breeze and such). If the other 7 players all die and I leave.. YOU are to blame for it not me. I will survive and you will continue your mediocrity.

What's your IGN? I'd like to put you on ignore along with all other asshats.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 02, 2006, 08:05 PM // 20:05

I read the first page of this is and all I have to say is damn straight, if ya wanna be a surviving wuss then don't screw over the rest who want to complete the mission.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 02, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Imaginos

What's your IGN? I'd like to put you on ignore along with all other asshats.

I'd like to know too

chone · Jul 02, 2006, 10:54 PM // 22:54

so i was going to get the title (1) on my new assassin...i decided to type /deaths once i got to minister cho's estate and it says i have died 5 times.

i have not died once. i have not entered any missions, no arenas, none of the event crap or anything. i've gone afk once and i stayed right where i was. i'm only level 11!...i've only been playing for a few hours, lol, i would know if i died or not.

i understand that the title (at least survivor(1)) is no big deal at all, but to get robbed like this is pretty lame.

Silent Kitty · Jul 02, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37

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Originally Posted by chone

so i was going to get the title (1) on my new assassin...i decided to type /deaths once i got to minister cho's estate and it says i have died 5 times.

i have not died once. i have not entered any missions, no arenas, none of the event crap or anything. i've gone afk once and i stayed right where i was. i'm only level 11!...i've only been playing for a few hours, lol, i would know if i died or not.

i understand that the title (at least survivor(1)) is no big deal at all, but to get robbed like this is pretty lame.

Happened to me too. I got one death count because I zoned back to town, in the middle of a fight. I was soloing, so no innocent noobs were hurt in the process

Kijik Oni Hanryuu · Jul 02, 2006, 11:38 PM // 23:38

Ima go for survivor on my ranger and my rit, if my rit hasn't died yet...

Plushie Penguin · Jul 03, 2006, 02:57 AM // 02:57

this title kind of tags you as a coward, anyone who is going for that title is kicked out of my parties